Pot manifold + hillbilly hopback + gravity plate chiller
  • I've been reading about different ways to get hop aroma into beer. I've tried about everything cold side and wanted to explore hopbacking on the hot side. Most sources said that you need a pump to do this unless you have enough head (gravity). Even then, some say, it can be tricky.

    Manifold
    First things first. Here is the homemade 'manifold' I made using Rob's kettle valve.
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    I took a drill and drilled a bunch of little holes in the copper tube and clamped off the end. Then I cut a rubber stopped down so it will take the copper pipe and be of short enough profile to all the nut to thread onto the valve housing. I bent the copper pipe wider than the pot so it would actively press against the inside of the pot anchoring itself. I wanted to drill more holes on both side but my bit broke so I called that good.

    As far as performance of the valve, it only took one test run to get the gasket set right. I'm very happy with it. Filled with 12 gallons of water, it took 12 minutes to drain. Awesome!

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    Hopback
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    I bought a container that was meant for soup. It works well for a hopback because of the 3 side clamps. I drilled a hole in the lid and bottom and set two bungs with the same copper pipe I used for the manifold. Over the bottom bung, I used an upside down vegetable steam to use as a filter/hopstopper.

    Plate chiller
    First off, ignore the gochujang cans. That's version 1 of a rocket stove that's undergoing modification. The bricks, however, were important. This got me the head required to allow the beer to make it through the hopback and plate chiller.

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    Stats:
    Height to bottom of the pot from the floor: 3 ft 10 inches (117 cm)
    Water in temp: 16c
    Wort in: 85c (I did a 15 minute hopstand)
    Wort out: 25c
    Total time to cool 10.5-11 gallons of wort: about 15 mins.

    I throttled the valve output a bit but it didn't seem to matter much in terms of wort temperature out. I bought one of the smaller chillers available from dudadiesel.com . Anyways, 25c ain't too shabby!

    You're probably thinking, "how in the hell did you get the pot up there without killing yourself?". I just took my first runnings and then some of the second and picked it up and put it atop the bricks. I have a valve on the bottom of the mashtun, so when I collected enough what I thought was 'heavy enough' I corked the mashtun and then later collected the remainder in another vessel and then combined them in the 50L pot.

    The pale ale I made with the hopback (my first run with the hopback) smells amazing! Hopefully I'll be able to finally get the aroma I've been hoping for.
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  • Looks great Garrett! Nice work.
    “A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure.” ~ Czech Proverb
  • I want to see this thing in action. :)
  • I've been reading about hopstands and similar production scale timelines, they take at least 30 minutes to 90 minutes to transfer the wort through the whirlpool and cool it down to ambient temp. I was planning on letting my next IPA sit on my stove top for 30 minutes before I chilled next time. I bet that hopback makes it that much better, lookin' good!
  • Wow, that looks awesome! Where and how much for that item you use for a hopback? Also, did you build your plate chiller? I love the arrangement of everything and the way it all is put together, makes me pine for the good old tools, big-ass hardware stores, and garages I had back in the USA.

    I assume that you have a manifold to help filter the hops out of your boil kettle? Wouldn't the hop back already do some of that work? Also, are you boiling your wort with a mini rocket stove?
  • Oats said:

    did you build your plate chiller?

    I assume that you have a manifold to help filter the hops out of your boil kettle? Wouldn't the hop back already do some of that work? Also, are you boiling your wort with a mini rocket stove?



    1. I bought the plate chiller from dudadiesel.com . I didn't know one could make a plate chiller. Interesting.

    2. Yes, on the manifold. The hop back filters out any break material that makes it's way past the manifold. I just wanted to be more safe than sorry. I heard that the plate chillers can be a rascal to clean if you get shit in there requiring caustic chemicals. That's a road I don't want to go down. Plus, it'll be nice to use on my non-plate chilled, non IPA beers.

    Also, I'm on the fence about the plate chiller vs. immersion chiller vs. kettle chill for all NON IPA beers. The plate chiller takes some time to setup with the water in/water out and the sanitizing of the high temperature hoses and the securing of the hose clamps. The IC takes less time but that still involves stirring over the pot for 20 minutes. All my brewing takes place between September and May so, If I plan an afternoon brew, I'm able to take advantage of overnight temperatures in the 14-15c range. I know Bryan does a lot of kettle chill beers too. I haven't lost one to infections/DMS.

    3. Rocket stove. That's just the remnants of an earlier rocket stove build. It works BUT the outer barrel or well fitted thermal skirt is really what makes the rocket super efficient. I can't use the electric 'yo' because the heat will melt it. When I'm home this summer, I'm going to rebuild my rocket stove and incorporate a vertical, gravity feed of the fuel. Then I'll do one up this fall in Korea. I gotta start collecting wood scraps in the meantime. Finding scrap wood in Korea is a bit tougher than MT!
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  • Oh, I spent 40,000w on the soup thing. I found it in one of the massive kitchen stores. Steep I know but I looked at a lot of things that were partly glass or didn't have the clips. This works out perfect and I don't have to worry about breaking it.
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  • I just assumed making a plate chiller was possible, never done any homework on it. I see why you need a manifold now, makes sense. Cool stuff man.