wheat beer recipe?

[sokoteacher]

I am trying to figure out a wheat beer recipe. There doesn't appear to be any wheat extract available other than beerschool's ESB Wheat can or the bavarian wheat kit, and I want a little more involvement than that. What should I add to the ESB Wheat to get something decent? Rob, any chance of you bastardizing your Who, What, Wheat? to an extract or as close as one can get?

This is what I am looking at doing:

malt & fermentables:
59% 1.700 Wheat Malt Extract Syrup (ESB on beerschool)
24% 0.680 Honey
17% 0.500 Light Dry Malt Extract

I am not sure about the fermentables here, too much honey? not enough DME? Is this going to be hard on the yeast?

Batch size: 19 liters
Original Gravity 1.047
Final Gravity 1.012

Color: 4° SRM / 8° EBC (Yellow)
Boil: 11 liters for 60 minutes
hops:
boil 60 mins 28g Hallertauer info pellet 10.0
boil 5 mins 14g Hallertauer info pellet 10.0

Bitterness: 32.0 IBU / 10 HBU
Is this too bitter for a wheat beer?
perhaps this would be better?
boil 60 mins 56 Tettnang
boil 15 mins 14 Fuggles (could just stick with the tettnang for flavor)
boil 5 mins 7 Saaz
Bitterness 19.1 IBU / 5 HBU

yeast: Fermentis WB-06 Dry Wheat Beer Yeast, ale yeast in dry form with medium flocculation
I am just guessing that this is the kind of yeast you get from the ESB kit, but it may be an actual proper wit beer yeast, but I am skeptical. Should I cough up the 18700, and get the weizen yeast from blue brew? On the other hand, it could be an interesting taste...

4.7% ABV / 4% ABW

[Rob]

My wheat recipes are just 50% wheat, 50% pilsner malt. So for extract (and whats available here) you could use the extracts like that. I have never used honey, so not sure on that front. Kevin once made a beer with honey and it was very dry and strong! As for the IBUs, I'd say that getting up into the 30's is getting a bit bitter.....19 sounds better to me. To make a wheat, you are going to need wheat yeast otherwise its just going to be a wheat ale of sorts. Maybe if there are homebrewers around, they might have some harvested yeast you could grab off them. Pretty sure I have some in my fridge (I think), but not sure how close you are to Suji (Jukjeon station).

[Rob]

I am going to make a wheat this weekend as well actually. I was just going to make my standard Who?What?Wheat? but I just stumbled across this and it sounds damn tasty!!! Midnight Sun releases Hop Dog in July.

Hop Dog - Double Wheat IPA:

ABV: 8%
IBUs: 100
Hops: Columbus, Amarillo, Simcoe
Malts: Pilsner, Malted Wheat

[ghohn]

Should I cough up the 18700, and get the weizen yeast from blue brew?

You could try to ranch some yeast from the few bottled hefewiezens we have in Korea. I'm getting conflicting information about what is the true fermentation yeast and what is a beer that's had a lager yeast added for bottle conditioning but it's wort a shot. I made a batch from a Leffe Brunne and it turned out great! After I get ahold of some wheat to malt, I'm going this route.

[sokoteacher]

Thanks for the advice. Rob that double does look excellent. Bottle one and send it to me. Is that possible? thanks for the offer of yeast, but I am a long long way from Suji, I live in Daegu. Ghohn, I tried to ranch a yeast from a leffe bruin but didn't have any luck it seems. Got it in the bottle last friday and I don't see anything. But would like to make a Belgian sometime later so I'll have to try again. I think I am going to go for the honey wheat I described earlier, let you know how it turns out.